Schematic Review Rev 4 PDB
Part Reviews
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@Paul Kokhanov | UT336M100HGKTA | SH2,SH3 | CAP_33uF_100V_ALUM | RADIAL_Aillen | Schematic
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@Paul Kokhanov | UT476M100HGKTA | SH2,SH3 | CAP_47uF_100V_ALUM_1 | RADIAL_Aillen | Schematic
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@Paul Kokhanov | TPSD157K016R0060 | SH2,SH3 | CAP_150uF_16V_TANT_1 | CAP2917 | Schematic
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@Ari Wasch | TPSD226M025R0100 | SH2,SH3 | CAP_22uF_25V_TANT | CAP2917 | Schematic
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@Logan Hartford | MWLA1707S-100MT | SH2,SH3 | IND_10uH_16.5A | Inductor MWLA1707 | Schematic
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@Logan Hartford | PCEC1308-220M | SH2,SH3 | IND_22uH_7A | Inductor PG0936 | Schematic
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@Farris Matar | AONS66923 | SH2,SH3 | NMOS_100V_15/47A_1 | AONS66923 | Schematic
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@Farris Matar | MB10H100HE3_B/I | SH2,SH3 | DIO_SCHOTTKY_100V_10A | D-PAK3 | Schematic:
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@Farris Matar | LM20BIM7 | SH7 | IC_TEMP_SENSOR_NEW | SOT65P210X110-5N |
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@Ari Wasch | IRF5210STRLPBF | SH1 | PMOS_100V_38A | DPAK5_PMOS_FOOTPRINT | Schematic:
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@Ari Wasch | TCAN334GDR | SH8 | IC_CAN_TRANSCEIVER | SOIC127P600X175-8N | Schematic:
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@Logan Hartford | LT3845AIFE#PBF | SH2,SH3 | BUCK_LT3845A | SOP65P640X120-14N | Schematic
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Schematic Sheet Reviews
POWER.SchDoc (@Farris Matar )
17V Buck Converter.SchDoc (@Logan Hartford & @Paul Kokhanov )
@Logan Hartford 's Comments:
Schematic Readability/Neatness
This is not a clear way of representing a voltage divider:
Voltage dividers should be vertical with the positive voltage at the top of the divider and the reference voltage at the bottom, as illustrated above.
You should not have this many connections crossing each other, the schematic should be easily readable, I’ll make some suggestions for how to clean this up.
Move the VCC pin above the BOOST pin so that you don’t have to route that across all of the other connections.
Move the CS+/- pins to the top or bottom of the right side of the IC to those lines can be routed up and away from the rest of the circuit instead of going through.
Pull this circuit out and away from the IC and expand it if you need to make it cleaner.
You don’t need to route power, you can just drop a GND port
Make the IC symbol larger if you need to, to make these changes. Space is not a constraint in schematic and readability is most important.
Bring this is in
Again, this is not a proper way to represent a voltage divider. Pull it out from the IC and make it vertical.
If you are doing this you are not allowing enough room for the circuit, pull it out and expand it.
I would prefer to see this part of the circuit being organized vertically with all of the grounds placed vertically
IC part number should be listed here
Schematic Readability/Neatness (Post-Update)
Might as well move CSS below BURTS_EN to remove another crossed wire
From the IC Datasheet:
I’m not sure what this is but I think BURST_EN should be shorted to GND or VFB. This voltage divider should be to GND should it not?
You are missing SGND. I don’t think you need to create a signal GND just be careful with how you place and route the high noise and high power components relative to the IC. You do need this pin to give the thermal pad the proper connection though.
I may be doing the calculation wrong but it seems like your IC power dissipation will be too high
The indutor you have selected has less inductance than the minimum inductance indicated by your calculations
Based on Rb as 10k and Vsupply at 36V, I’m gettin 256k for Ra. Double check this. also the divider is missing a ground port in your schematic
The voltage rating of your capacitors is not high enough. Your caps should be rated to 2x the expected voltage therefore the minimum acceptable voltage rating would be 34V.
@Paul Kokhanov Comments:
Schematic Readability:
Logan Touched on all the main points, please refer to his suggestions
potentially make these come to one ground
Could make overall IC larger in size just to space everything out, but that’s up to you
Schematic Correctness:
Footprint not linked for MOSFETs
Should you include the SGND pin?
May need to look at BURST_EN pin and confirm which operating method you are intending to use, it looks like you do want the BURST_EN enabled so make sure to short it to GND
In terms of Vc, it seems the best method in order to determine the optimal RC network connection would be to create and order the PCB and test how well the transient response is depending on various values of the capacitor and resistor, hence for now the values should be fine but this is something that will need to be tested later
This voltage divider for the SHDN pin should be grounded
I’m getting a Ra of 256.6 kOhms using the following equations with Rb as 10Kohms and our V Supply of 36 V
Just to be confident could I get an explanation why we chose 0.1 V for our Delta Vout? Is that a fairly typical value?
Potentially chose a larger voltage rating for the output capacitors as we are expecting 17 V of output, 25 V should be reasonable but maybe put it to over 30 V to be safe
Overall MOSFETs seem to be reasonable, if you want you could look and see if there are any other MOSFETs with a smaller RDS(ON) but if the difference is less than 5% I’d say don’t worry about it
You will need to chose an inductor with a larger inductance, currently you have 22uH but need it to be larger than 23.5uH
As Logan mentioned, the power dissipation of the regulator seems too high, from the datasheet of the MOSFET we get a Max total gate charge of 35 nC which causes the Power dissipation to be 1.24 W instead of the maximum of 250 mW. So a new MOSFET could be selected, or if there is a chance to reduce the input voltage then you could lower the power dissipation. Or you could potentially lower the switching frequency.
Also I notice the input voltage range is 36-50.4 V, how did we determine the 48 V input voltage?
5V Buck Converter.SchDoc (@Logan Hartford & @Paul Kokhanov)
@Logan Hartford 's Comments:
Schematic Readabiltiy/Neatness:
Same as above, I can see several ways you could clean up this section of the schematic and not have so many wires crossing each other
From the Datasheet:
Since the ICs are the same for the 5V and the 17V, most of my comments from above will apply but I will state them breifly here again.
Missing a GND on the SHDN divider and I think you should double check the calcualtions for Ra for that divider.
Your output capacitance target is 660uF but you only have 600. 600 is probably enough, but if you want to push it to >660 I would use some of the 22uF caps from 17V converter. Caps with different capacitances will filter different noise ranges better, thus improving your overall noise filtering.
Inductance looks good
IC power dissipation looks good
@Paul Kokhanov Comments (WIP):
Readability:
Connect these grounds
Similar comments to those on the 48 - 17 V converter
Correctness(Similar comments as per 17 V converter):
Footprint not linked for MOSFETs
include SGND?
GND needed on SHDN pin voltage divider
Ra calculations need to be looked at
Footprint for inductor not found
in your part Selection document you mention you are using the same MOSFET here as you did for the 17 V Converter, however in the schematic the part seems different
Still concerned about power dissipation of the regulator
increase output capacitance on schematic
I’m getting 3.75 uH for inductor value
Load Monitoring 2.SchDoc (@Farris Matar )
MicroController.SchDoc (@Ari Wasch )
The SPI connection below can be removed unless there is something that uses SPI. it used to connect to BMS, but BMS is going to be a separate board
BMS and Battery Balancer pages can be removed
Can we include a few more VBAT_FUSED output connectors?
why a diode for the output of the temperature sensor? an output capacitor is recommended from the data sheet
in layout example, all NC are connected to GND
CAN.SchDoc (@Ari Wasch )
Generic Schematic Reviews
Net Naming (@Farris Matar )
Wiring and Connections (@Paul Kokhanov)
Component Labels (@Logan Hartford)
See 17V buck comments
Diodes are not showing part number
Design-for-Test (@Ari Wasch )
where does the below connect to?
Temperature_ADC_INPUT needs a test point
testpoints for all the ultra sonic sensors inputs and outputs?
Supporting Document Links if Needed
Buck Converter 5 V Calculations Simplified.xlsx
Buck Converter 17 V Calculations Simplified.xlsx
https://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/3845afa.pdf